The Willies

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Firstly I have to say that I’m not in any way religious. Not in the normal way at any rate. I do believe in a greater power, and I also believe that each of us has a purpose – something or things that we have to learn, do, or share along the way. So. I research a lot of old myths and legends for my Shadow People books, as well as ancient building sites and so on. I’ve been doing a lot of digging around about free will, death, the afterlife, reincarnation, angels and demons again too, and now I’ve given myself the proper willies. When I was writing Echoes of Narcissus I kept on thinking that some malignant narcissists are actually demonic entities inside. Having known my own, and seeing a couple of videos online they very often look and sound the part. Even if they’re physically gorgeous, it’s always in the eyes and the voice that you’ll see or hear those glimmers of darkness.

Some people believe that after you die you become pure spirit again, but I don’t reckon that sounds very logical. If you’ve been an evil sod during your life on Earth, why should you stop being an evil sod after popping your cork? No. You’ll enter your next incarnation with that evil remaining within you somewhere. I think that souls can be blackened by your choices, and once blackened you have to choose to unblacken them or they’ll just keep getting darker. I know that a lot of people don’t believe in any sort of life after death or spirits and that sort of thing, and that’s fine, and probably a lot less creepy, but I do believe in these things, and the more I research, the more I wonder about payback.

There is good and there is evil. It’s pretty obvious if you look around the world these days. Seeing good in any form gives you a good vibe, and seeing evil makes you feel bad – or angry or guilty. I like to think of myself as mostly as good as I can be these days, but I still do things that I know are wrong. Like those things we use in our daily lives that are produced to the detriment, pain, or deaths of others. I do try not to contribute to harm too much as I zoom along, but sometimes I’ve chosen to take the easy way and look away instead.

None of us know with any certainty whether there will be payback or not, but if there is some of us are in for a rather nasty surprise. Throughout history there have been people who have risen to greatness who shared pretty much the same messages of striving to be and do good. To do no harm and so on. While we as a species have raised them up and often worshipped them, as a whole we are all either doing, or allowing to be done, the opposite of all those things they said that we so strongly agree with.

We all appear to be watching helplessly as our world and all who sail on it are destroyed, but unless you are physically at the mercy of a stronger physical force I think that our helplessness is a choice. Free will. We are all able to be as good or as bad as we choose to be. Fair enough, heading off to have a stern talking to with those who somehow we’ve crazily allowed to rule the planet along the way isn’t going to happen (although really cool plot for a book!), but every single day we have choices that will either add or remove a black spot from our soul. Every little thing that we do is important I think, and life shouldn’t only be about self-gratification.

All of this research has me thinking now that all the bad you do, maybe you get to take that with you, and you get to stay that way until you exercise your right to free will. So those evil killers and torturers that have come and gone over the years. If they weren’t tossed into the deepest pits of hell, and if reincarnation is true, well then, they’re back with us today in some form or another, and they’ll either choose good or bad. Or maybe they’re just so bad that it’s too late for good. Or is it ever too late? Either way, there really are some evil buggers out there these days. Some pretty creepy photos of spooks too, never mind dancing with the devil in the pale moonlight.

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Image Credit: Paul Rubens

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57 thoughts on “The Willies

    Smorgasbord - Variety is the Spice of Life. said:
    January 28, 2015 at 10:14 am

    Reblogged this on Smorgasbord – Variety is the spice of life and commented:
    An interesting perspective on good and evil and reincarnation – I think that the expression ‘old soul’ sums it up.. sometimes you meet a child who is a music prodigy with a calm mature approach to life at age 5 – a child that is incredibly empathetic to animals and people or an adult that gives you the creeps and you avoid like the plague.. There is also your soul mate that you seem to have known for ever and beyond.. It is a great article that might make you wonder next time you meet that tall dark stranger with a glint in their eyes…or fires of hell.. do go over and read this excellent article by Jo Robinson..

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 28, 2015 at 1:01 pm

      Thanks for sharing Sal! I’ve met a couple of not very nice children around and about and they had lovely parents, so I’ve often wondered where the wicked ways came from. X

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    Rajiv said:
    January 28, 2015 at 10:34 am

    True.. In one sense, what goes around, comes around. Second, we do carry our deeds and our spirit with us

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 28, 2015 at 1:02 pm

      I do believe in Karma too Rajiv – eventually we all get what’s coming to us. 🙂

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    Jack Eason said:
    January 28, 2015 at 11:00 am

    I think your right Jo. Now if only we could see into the future to determine how we will turn out when we reach a certain age, while we are still young. Then maybe, just maybe, we could steer clear of a hell of a lot of the grief and angst we encounter along the way. 😉

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 28, 2015 at 1:03 pm

      So true Jack. I’ve made some doozie mistakes, although I suppose that’s part of the trip too. 🙂 X

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    Jack Eason said:
    January 28, 2015 at 11:00 am

    Reblogged this on Have We Had Help? and commented:
    More wise words from our Jo 🙂

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    davidprosser said:
    January 28, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    I agree evil is a exercise in choice. I see that evil in the politicians who decide to declare wars and sometimes the people who carry them out not caring how many innocent and good people are hurt in the process.
    I see it in those who hunt and kill elephants for their ivory and those who wipe out great swathes of forest not caring how many species of animal they wipe out or just put at risk.
    I see it in those who carry bombs int crowded places, cafes, buses, or fly planes into buildings, carry guns into schools and kill teachers and pupils.I see evil in those who rape and those who murder.
    All of these people make a choice to be this way and we must stop giving them power. The future of this planet for our children and their children is in doubt unless the good among us band together to combat hate, unless we start caring about people of all colours and cultures and looking at protecting the planet for future generations.
    I’m not religious, but if I were I’d be saying we have to stop the devil destroying god’s work.
    xxx Huge Hugs Jo. xxx

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 28, 2015 at 1:06 pm

      I agree with every word you day David. We have to stop giving them power, and those of us who care really do need to start lending our voices at the very least. xxx Massive Hugs xxx ❤

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    teagan geneviene said:
    January 28, 2015 at 12:57 pm

    Wonderful post Jo. Thought provoking. Huge hugs. 🙂

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    philipparees said:
    January 28, 2015 at 1:02 pm

    Probably we are all querying the path of so called justice in different ways. I think greater discernment of choices on which to exercise free will is aided by recognising that black and white are blended in shades of grey, and discerning between one shade of grey and a darker shade has to be the growth towards the light. Right now in the UK was are facing the electioneering nakedly, appealing to fear (blackish) and greed(blacker still). It is dispiriting to realise that these will be the basis of most people’s choices! Good post Jo!

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 28, 2015 at 1:09 pm

      Thank you Philippa! That’s the thing. Everywhere I’ve been looking, even though there are many fighting for the good, the dark seems to be getting darker for all the most important issues. It’s a little scary to think where this world will be in twenty years time. X

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        philipparees said:
        January 28, 2015 at 4:18 pm

        Glad to be joined today in your parallel post throwing a little outrage into the ring! As a fellow SAican lets do a little more of it Jo? The internet is becoming too saccharine, and we can begin to say what we really mean?

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    olganm said:
    January 28, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    Interesting post. I guess we can’t help but judge from the point where we are, but our history is full of darkness. One just hopes that people would have learned from their mistakes and be more enlightened now, but…I’m with you on the importance of free will and not blaming others for our own actions. The debate of the innate goodness or evil of humans has been going on for centuries. I wonder if we’ll ever find an answer.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 28, 2015 at 3:52 pm

      At the rate we’re going we probably won’t be finding any answers any time soon. I’ve watched quite a few of those crime documentaries “Born To Kill”. Those people know that what they’re doing is evil and they do it anyway. I can’t get my head around some of the things I’ve seen – wouldn’t be believable fiction.

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    Charles Yallowitz said:
    January 28, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    This reminds me of when a friend and I just came up with different afterlife ideas. Don’t remember most of them, but he tended to go toward reincarnation-based things. I do know people who think that death means you’re done and all of your energy is gone. So they would probably say that what you do in life has no affect on you after death. Personally, I wouldn’t be surprised if the evil ones are left as spirits who are forced to watch the world and never interact with it. Eternity as a shadow with all the senses except for touch . . . I like ghost stories.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 28, 2015 at 3:55 pm

      I also like to think that evil is punished. I also read somewhere that hell is total isolation for all eternity. Definitely don’t want to go there! I love ghost stories, although I’m a total wimp, so I generally don’t sleep well after watching them – especially the ones that are supposed to be based on true events. I’ve got a horror I’ve been writing for eighteen months now, but I keep scaring myself away from it. 😀

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        Charles Yallowitz said:
        January 28, 2015 at 4:25 pm

        What if the punishment is ceasing to exist? Evil is simply removed while the good moves on to whatever is next. Honestly, I really don’t know why people spend their life focusing on what happens after death. You tend to miss the living part of your journey if you’re obsessed with the afterlife.

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          jorobinson176 responded:
          January 29, 2015 at 7:38 am

          Or maybe we get what we believe? Some people believe we’re part of some gigantic computer game. I don’t like the idea of the light just going out, and The End. Not a good idea to be obsessed with the afterlife. I totally agree – life must be lived. I’m a bit obsessed with it now though because of my Shadow People scribbling, but I reckon I might take a quick side road to a bit of short humour or something – just to even out the old brain again.

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            Charles Yallowitz said:
            January 29, 2015 at 1:19 pm

            I wonder if anybody is actually okay with the ‘light going out’ scenario. Most people I hear talk about it are clinical, but there’s no sense that they’re either happy or sad about such a fate. Almost like it’s only something to accept if it’s real.

            An unbalanced brain can cause trouble. If anything it gives one a stiff neck because your head is always tilted to the side.

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    First Night Design said:
    January 28, 2015 at 3:29 pm

    It’s an endlessly fascinating topic to discuss. The evil side of me longs for payback to be a given but the Mandela side of me (!) says, ‘Let it go, Sarah.’ How much better life and death might be if we could do what Jack suggests! Great post, Jo.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 28, 2015 at 3:58 pm

      I’m the same way except when evil is done to the helpless. I pulled a grown man off a miniature pony that he was squashing and beating at the same time when I was eight years old, and socked him a few good ones before my mother pulled me off him. I’d do it again in a heartbeat too. I generally try to forgive the harm done to me by others, but it’s not always easy. I reckon a bit of retribution is the way to go when the bad is really bad.

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      philipparees said:
      January 28, 2015 at 4:23 pm

      Not sure Mandela quite said ‘let it go’ or not until after he was prepared to die. Nor was ‘reconciliation’ proposed without ‘truth’ first. I concur that ‘An eye for an eye’ means the world goes blind, (and it sure is right now) which I think implies that shining light into darkness becomes an obligation, wherever it exists.

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        First Night Design said:
        January 28, 2015 at 4:36 pm

        I was really referring to his ability to accept and forgive without going for revenge.

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          philipparees said:
          January 28, 2015 at 4:45 pm

          I understood that was what you meant, but very often forgiveness is ‘sold’ as the higher good ( and it is) but remorse and confronting is part of it. There is, increasingly, a kind of wishy washy ‘forgive all’ injunction that buries the wrong doing and almost consents to its continuance. It is marvellous to have a post in which comments of this kind tease out meaningful exchanges. Those who perpetrate evil, and do so knowingly, regard the ‘other cheek’ philosophy as weakness, and an open target for another occasion. That is what has happened politically in the UK, when nobody wanted to mention that gangs grooming children were almost exclusively Muslim.

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    Jane Sadek said:
    January 28, 2015 at 3:42 pm

    I take comfort in the Bible which assures me I will only live once and then be judged. The judgement will be based on what Jesus did for me rather than how good or bad I am as I wander through this earth. I have a wonderful life and I aspire to always do good, but when I’m done, I don’t want to be churned out to do it all again.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 28, 2015 at 4:00 pm

      I totally respect that Jane – I have a lot of beloved friends who believe the same things. I never knew that the bible says that you only live once, but I’m no expert!

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    noelleg44 said:
    January 28, 2015 at 4:04 pm

    Rubens could definitely paint evil! I have always had a belief in cosmic retribution – in this life or the next. It’s been my experience that a person who has done something nasty gets retribution at some time in their life.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 29, 2015 at 7:41 am

      I was tempted to post a pic of Dante’s Inferno but that was a bit over the top – amazing how graphic some of the old paintings are. I also believe in retribution of some kind, and wondered why some people have awful lives through no fault of their own – karma maybe?

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    Mira Prabhu said:
    January 28, 2015 at 6:56 pm

    Reblogged this on mira prabhu and commented:
    Jo Robinson on “The Willies”…thanks for a great post, Jo, and keep ’em coming – always so authentic and interesting to read!

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    Gordana said:
    January 28, 2015 at 7:20 pm

    People are getting old so quickly and getting wise so slowly! Thank you and Mira for this great article.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 29, 2015 at 7:44 am

      I love that sentence! We don’t want to get to the end of the race and have too many regrets – we definitely need more wisdom.

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    Barb Drummond said:
    January 28, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    You make a lot of god points, but I have often found in history many people behave badly because they have had bad things happen to them – either by others or by fate. And so much of the bad stuff happening today is largely due to tit for tatting. As the great Mo Mowlem said, we need to live with history not in it.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 29, 2015 at 7:48 am

      The tit for tatting is tragic and an excellent point. I suppose if we go back far enough we could all just spend our lives beating the daylights out of each other in revenge for something. The people who behave badly because something bad has happened to them still must know that what they are doing is bad – free will, and the choice to do bad in these scenarios is just as bad as the original I reckon. Mo Mowlem sounds like my kind of guy.

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    soireadthisbooktoday said:
    January 28, 2015 at 7:59 pm

    Reblogged this on So, I Read This Book Today and commented:
    The internet is amazing. You can find people you love and hate, respect and admire or want to throttle…..
    I just found Jo Robinson, and the respect and admire thing? Yep. She has my attention – and I now have her book, “Echoes of Narcissus in the Gardens of Delight”. Watch for my review!

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 29, 2015 at 7:51 am

      Thank you very much! Both for sharing and for reading my Echoes. I love the internet and some of my best friends in the world live there. I’m with you on the throttle bits a couple of times too – also the laugh out loud times. Here’s to new friendships!

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    Susan Scott said:
    January 28, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    I’m glad Mira Prabhu re-blogged this Jo, great post.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 29, 2015 at 7:52 am

      Thank you very much Susan! I love Mira – she’s one of a kind lovely, incredibly wise and a brilliant author.

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    Charles Lominec said:
    January 28, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    I find hope in the progress we’ve made thus far as a species, in regards to how we treat each other. It’s a work in progress, and our virtue is highlighted by how we pursue that work. I don’t believe in karma, cosmic justice, or that evil will eventually get its due. It’s up to us to keep evil in check.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 29, 2015 at 7:56 am

      It really is up to us to keep evil in check no matter what we believe. I’m not sure that our progress as a species is all that good as a whole, but yes, a lot of individuals are a lot further along the way to good and that has to matter a lot.

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    chrllrobb.blog said:
    January 28, 2015 at 11:33 pm

    A very good post. We all do have the privilege of free will. And there is good and evil in all of us I think. God allows us to make the choice. I am not very good at this. I am not an avid reader of the Bible as I should be. I do know that there will come a time when it will be too late. I don’t believe in reincarnation, but I do believe in demons and angels. Jesus came to be among us and died for our sins, and rose again and lives in Heaven, so that if we believe in Him, we will go to Heaven and live a happier, wiser, and sin free life forever. Everyone can change and make the right, or wrong decisions in life. They have to make that decision. When God has decided that evil has ran the world enough, He will make the decision to end it. If we don’t make the best decision that He has presented to us, then it will be too late. I hope I am presenting another path for you to explore. I have your best interest at heart.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 29, 2015 at 8:02 am

      Thanks and very well said! I tend to read a lot – at times I dip into all of the old holy books, including Christian, Hindu and the ways of Karma Yoga, Moslem and Jewish. There are so many similarities in the basic message of being good that my mind boggles sometimes at the perceived differences around, but I have the greatest respect for all.

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    Let's CUT the Crap! said:
    January 28, 2015 at 11:47 pm

    At one time (long ago) I thought reincarnation occurred, no question about it. Now, I’m not so sure. Mostly, I am confused because you do meet people who you feel you’ve know before and the person who give you the creeps. It’s a fascinating subject. I thought I read evil people have something some different chemical in the brain. I’m not sure about that either. I was going to say good and evil are a choice, but how can it be IF it’s a chemical thing?

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 29, 2015 at 8:07 am

      I suppose we won’t truly know until it happens. Reincarnation is such a fascinating thing especially when you have one of those out of the blue big deja vu things happen. I’ve also met those people who somehow I just recognise. There’s definitely something more than just this life I think. When I was researching serial killers quite a lot of them had had some sort of injury to the head at some point, and the forensic pathologist said at one point that that, combined with a predisposition and sometimes an abusive childhood drove them to violence and murder. I still believe that they have the knowledge of wrong and right and the choice also. I reckon that some people are truly too far gone mentally to control themselves, but only very few – I reckon bad is just bad sometimes even with full awareness.

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        Let's CUT the Crap! said:
        January 29, 2015 at 1:07 pm

        Yes, I believe there is still a choice. Right is right and wrong is wrong. 🙂

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    theowllady said:
    January 29, 2015 at 4:24 am

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    H.M. Nolan said:
    January 29, 2015 at 5:53 am

    Reblogged this on H.M. Nolan.

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    The Guardian said:
    January 29, 2015 at 7:44 am

    What you’ve written here is so close to what I’ve learned in life! I have a strong belief in Karma and I honestly believe that we ought to devote our lives to doing good so that we all can sort nullify all the wrong we’ve done.

    I wrote about that on my personal blog too…
    http://bloganujthings.tumblr.com/post/109001965517/the-fundamental-truth

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      January 29, 2015 at 8:19 am

      That’s an excellent post, and I’m following you on Tumblr now. I think that some of the things in life can only be explained by Karma, and I totally agree about doing good. Doing good makes you feel good anyway so no loss there. Sometimes I think that having a non-tangible good thing you do is a lot better than having a tangible valuable thing.

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        The Guardian said:
        January 29, 2015 at 8:27 am

        Thanks for following me on Tumblr and on WordPress. It was a very kind gesture. 🙂 🙂

        Hope we both learn more about life and progress on the path!

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    celtic culture said:
    January 29, 2015 at 3:27 pm

    our bodies are but vessels, our souls transpire divinity through life with each person we meet 🙂

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