Last Rant Ever – Promise! – Well –

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Just to clarify my last post. Ever since I went on my cleanup campaign I’ve been on a mission to do everything right as far as internet ethics are concerned. I’ve been following what I’ve obviously wrongly construed was the online etiquette for small self-published scribblers. I’m not talking about the websites of guys who tweet or blog about belly busting humour, or offer sound eating advice, like my namesake and Google page one nemesis, Jo Robinson, author of Eat Wild. Fashion blogs, hilarious Twitter accounts, and advice columnists are welcome to my slavish following, and I wouldn’t expect their notice any more than I would expect Dan Brown to pop in for tea and biscuits. The same applies to readers, amazing friends who happen to also be tireless and supportive book blogger’s, and other innocents who are supplying a much needed service to the millions of unknown independent writers out there.

I saw a blog rant a while ago where someone said that people who go around “liking” blog posts without commenting are basically sycophantic tools. I like to leave a “like” to let the blogger know that I’ve read and liked what they have to say. I think it shows my interest and support. What’s the “like” button for if not to like? Why should I have to think up a comment when I don’t really have anything in particular to say, but still enjoyed what I read? Regardless of my current temper-driven wordiness, I am terminally shy, and I have an underlying fear of saying something – however seemingly innocent – that will end up with some sort of wrath being rained down on my head. It has happened. Liking is a lot safer. There are so many nebulous blogging, tweeting and general “how to behave online” rules that the mind boggles.

This is how I see things. There are blog and Twitter sites that have a million followers and follow back three only – their granny, their BFF and one other site that is so awesome that it doesn’t follow even them back. That’s cool – nothing wrong with that. They have no need to make friends and influence people, and I’m more than happy to follow their awesomeness because they really are rock stars. Then you have the indie writers. There are millions of us. Some have achieved some level of success, and have so many followers that it would be impossible to have a squiz at what their fans are up to. That’s cool too. Happy to follow for gems of advice or some of Chuck Wendig’s hilarious F-bomb humour. Some try, like Toby Neal and Hugh Howey – he actually will try to answer or respond to his fans every time. Lovely guy. Then you have the small indie writers who make the time to interact with their entire following on every site – this is me – and apparently this is the wrong way to go about things. Good thing to find out because it’s tiring.

I don’t know. I’m probably wrong again. I generally am. I wonder what we’re up to though. I do feel that any other small member of the millions strong indie scribbler club, who takes the time out of his or her hectic life to notice me long enough to follow me on any site, or like anything I have to say, deserves the same attention from me. My rant was directed purely at my own club, by the way. Small self-published writers, struggling to be noticed. I do get the concept of content blogging that’s so awesome, you don’t ever need to follow back or interact. But not all blogs are that brilliant, and some indie authors end up stuck in an incestuous group of fellow indie buddies who they solely interact with, ignoring all new comers, and grandly accepting new followers in the manner of established famous writers. This is probably cool too. They could be hobbyists, and genuinely not care about what their followers and fans are up to. That’s what they do for fun. They have a place to hang out with their pals. Then again, I believe that the world of self publishing is a totally new animal. Logically it doesn’t make sense to convince yourself that you’re already big enough to sit back and accept any love coming your way without reciprocating, when it’s obvious that you aren’t. When you are unknown and not selling thousands of books every day, why on Earth would you pretend to be doing that very thing? Reach out and make new friends. Help, or at least interact once or twice, with new friends and followers.

Am I doing it all wrong? Am I giving the wrong impression by taking an interest in those who take an interest in me? Am I a terminal groupie? Probably. Anyway. I won’t ever stop loving those great blogs who make me laugh every day, or those of famous scribblers who teach me about writing or blogging, and certainly not those of those guys who tirelessly support indie writers with little or no benefit to themselves, and most of all my friends – my indie writer friends who do the work, write, market, and still take the time out of their lives to notice others who take the time out of their lives to give them a boost, a word of encouragement, or just a simple “like” now and then.

So…. This is what I’ve figured out:
1. Everyone has different reasons for interacting on the old interweb.
2. They’re all entitled to their opinions.
3. It’s not my place to crap on anyone for doing what they’re doing.
4. I’m entitled to my opinion too, and I need to wo/man up and act accordingly.

My original intent for this blog was to post excerpts from a fictional character’s diary. That never worked out, but I found that I loved blogging in general and interacting with other bloggers around the world. Not just book bloggers, but bloggers who scribble about all sorts of things.

New Rules for Me:
1. I will always try to interact with my followers, and see what they’re up to, even if it’s only occasionally, and even on the snowball in hell chance of me ever becoming a famous scribbler.
2. I will continue to slavishly follow the funny and informative guys even though they ignore me or sometimes respond to my comments in hilariously rude and offensive ways.
3. I will always support in any way those awesome bloggers who give their friendship and talent freely and lovingly.
4. I will no longer interact with bloggers that I’m trying to interact with in a mutually beneficial way if the interaction isn’t mutually beneficial. My likes and shares are probably irritations to them anyway, and there just aren’t enough hours in the day.
5. I will not be afraid to share my opinions just because they’re a little different, and because they are likely to get me unfollowed in droves.

An Opinion:
Beginning with a fact or two – 95% of traditionally published authors ever, sell fewer than 500 copies of any given book. 98% of self published authors sell fewer than 5 books other than to friends and family. Considering the millions of self published books, the two percent that do is actually quite a lot of scribblers. Most wallow in that 98 percentile chasm. So, unless you actually are part of the awesome 2% club, and even so, why on Earth would you ignore a potential ally? That opinion’s just from a marketing perspective, and not my main reason for blogging. I do it because I enjoy it. I especially enjoy that the bloggers I follow interact with me as a person, and appreciate my comments and interest in what they have to say. And unless they are in fact Hugh Howey, I enjoy seeing their opinions on my humble opinions now and then. That’s what I believe, and that’s what I’m going to carry on doing, together with my friends and any other followers who didn’t squeeze their nostrils shut and jump ship following my original whinge. I’m just going to carry on being me, and even though I obviously will carry on following blogs that really interest me on a non-writer level, like recipe, real life issues, ghosties and funnies, without for a second expecting any of them to notice me, I’m not going to carry on supporting small indie writers struggling up the ladder, unless I really do think that they are the next Phillipa Gregory if they don’t return that support.

Namaste.

dr2

109 thoughts on “Last Rant Ever – Promise! – Well –

    jcckeith said:
    November 30, 2013 at 6:18 am

    Not to ignore the rest of the post, I just wanted to say, I really like Phillipa Gregory. I didn’t think I would but wow. So good.
    But back to the rest of the post – as I said about the last one – I absolutely agree with you. Some people are all take and no give, have no sense of reciprocity and definitely no sense of generosity when it comes to reading the words of followers and fans.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      November 30, 2013 at 6:37 am

      It’s weird about her books – even men like reading them. Brilliant! I don’t understand why people don’t get this, and it’s frustrating. Then again – when I first started writing, I came across quite a few writers who never give back, and I did follow them slavishly for a while, so there are people out there who they can take from without having to worry about ever giving back. Everyone just keeps quiet and lets them get on with things – I probably should have kept my mouth shut. LOL! 😀

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        jcckeith said:
        November 30, 2013 at 6:38 am

        So glad you didn’t keep your mouth shut! This was just brilliant!

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    Menopausal Miss said:
    November 30, 2013 at 6:41 am

    I loved this post – and the last one. A good rant is very healthy, and usually pretty interesting, so please don’t give up ranting.

    I think what you had to say was also the start of a conversation that needs to be had. The infobahn is growing, and more and more people are using it as a way to connect with others, and that eventually leads to info overload. People will eventually become more selective about the places they spend time when online and I think they will gravitate to the places they get some form of reciprocation from.

    I have been amazed at the number of authors I have met (online) over the last few months because of places I have been hanging out and equally amazed, and secretly delighted, that they would chat with me. Be they ‘big’ authors, or less well known, they have been such interesting people, and such fun to talk with I will of course follow their work more closely than the ‘I’m so “BIG” I don’t need to communicate with you, I shall just preach’ authors.

    I am a reader rather than a writer, but I’m a very opinionated reader and so I do love to talk about books and genres and booky things, and I love the communication that tends to happen with booky people. I love to read what other booky people say and I use the ‘Like’ button as you do, and I like using it that way.

    I’m looking forward to your next post – be it rant or rave 🙂

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      November 30, 2013 at 7:46 am

      I still get totally starstruck when a writer I really like talks to me. And I’m with you as a reader too. I love to chat about booky things most of all – I generally get stupid and coy when anyone likes any of my scribbles. The thing that really makes me end up in a rant is the amount of small time authors out there who expect you to read their books (whether it’s something you would normally like to read or not), then leave them a glowing 5 star review, and them just don’t bother them again, unless it’s to advertise their books or tell them how fantastic they are. I’ve got a small readership, who aren’t scribblers themselves, who regularly email me and I always do, and always will, love chatting to them. Most of my online friends are indie writers though, and they’re all cool and supportive of each other, but just lately the “BIG” guys have been getting too far up my nostril to ignore. If they don’t support lovely people like yourself when you support them, by having a look at what you like and have to say, then they really aren’t worth your time I reckon. Thanks for not jumping up and down on my head for ranting. You never know with these things. 😀 xx

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    diannej65 said:
    November 30, 2013 at 7:17 am

    Jo, as Menopausal Miss says, please don’t stop ranting! You have every right to rant and where better to do so than on your blog? And for the record, I don’t class this or your previous post as a rant. You have not ‘gone off on one’. You have valid points to make, opinions to share and an eloquent manner of saying what needs to be said.
    Surely, on the web as in life, you have the right to decide who you admire, who intersests you, who you want to be friends with and who you interact with. We might start a conversation with the woman on the bus who’s struggling with an overloaded shopping bag, and looks more than a little flustered, but if she doesn’t respond to you, you wouldn’t carry on with the conversation. If she does respond and you have an interesting conversation for the length of the journey, you don’t have to become life long friends. You might however chat to her the next time you see her.
    What I am trying to say in my long-winded way is please stop apologising for choosing who you follow and feeling the need to explain your decisions. Life is too short and time too precious to waste. Spend what you have with those who interest you, make you laugh or support you.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      November 30, 2013 at 7:53 am

      I do apologise and explain too much, and you are so right Dianne – life is too short and precious. I totally agree with what you said, and love the way you describe the conversation that doesn’t have to end in lifelong friendship, but possibly some future friendly chats. That’s exactly what I mean. And after thinking about it a bit I remembered reading a post about a woman who had got hold of Stephen King’s phone number when she was a teen, and actually phoned the man himself. He was totally cool about the whole thing and chatted away to her. Your advice is great – spend what you have with those who interest you, make you laugh, or support you. All this ranting’s exhausting. 😀 xx

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    The Story Reading Ape said:
    November 30, 2013 at 10:01 am

    Hi Jo,

    Everyone needs to let off steam from time to time and if it’s not actually harming anyone else directly, then keep doing it as often as needed to clear the poisonous toxins that rapidly gather in the bloodstream when frustration and stress set in 🙂

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      November 30, 2013 at 10:11 am

      Thank you dear Doctor Furry. 😀 Poisonous toxins now cleared – hopefully the ranting isn’t a sign of the mean crotchety old lady I might become, who trips innocent passersby up with her knobbly walking stick. 😀

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        The Story Reading Ape said:
        November 30, 2013 at 10:16 am

        Heavens Forbid Jo, but especially don’t become a mobility mini-moke driver who does a handbrake turn at speed, then sits at the top of an access ramp at a supermarket, REVVING her ELECTRIC motor to make people walk faster and clear the way for her as I had experience of some time ago LOL 😀

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    The Story Reading Ape said:
    November 30, 2013 at 10:21 am

    PS Her GLARE was worth a thousand swear words LOL 😀

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      November 30, 2013 at 10:30 am

      LOLOLOL!!! I LOVE that granny! Imagine actually behaving like that! Ha ha haaaaaa! Bet you anything she was a scribbler having a bad day. 😀

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        The Story Reading Ape said:
        November 30, 2013 at 10:56 am

        More like an 80+ year old blue rinse having a need for speed LOL 😀

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          jorobinson176 responded:
          November 30, 2013 at 2:02 pm

          Scribblers NEVER go the blue rinse route!!! We age gracefully, not interfering with the natural flow of our locks for days, and sometimes weeks when there’s a heavy edit afoot. Still – that old gal sounds hilarious. Lucky you could swoop to the rafters to avoid being squished like a banana by a geriatric Stig. 😀

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        diannej65 said:
        November 30, 2013 at 3:04 pm

        Oh oh. Busted! Sorry I was in a bit of a rush and well you know how it is nobody gets out of the way! Seriously, I hope I never get Mobility Scooter Rage, but I do get annoyed when people walk STRAIGHT in front of me and give me ‘the evil stare’ when they fall over my scooter. Sorry but walkers have more manoueverability than me and can stop a heck of a lot faster. There my rant over lol

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          jorobinson176 responded:
          November 30, 2013 at 3:55 pm

          LOLOLOL! That’s hilarious! I think the Ape is hiding in a tree now. Ha haaa! 😀

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        The Story Reading Ape said:
        November 30, 2013 at 4:05 pm

        (Tiny ape-whisper) Has Moto Stig Dianne gone yet? This tree is a MONKEY PUZZLE and PRICKLES LOL 😀

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          jorobinson176 responded:
          December 1, 2013 at 12:54 pm

          Ha ha haaaaa! It’s safe to come out now. So, so brave….. 😀 X

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    Menopausal Miss said:
    November 30, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Now this is where we need another LIKE button – I’d love to be able to like all the above comments too ….
    I keep thinking about the comment you read on another’s blog about ‘Likers’ (my new word for the day :)) being ‘basically sycophantic tools’, and its has bugged me just a little. We are all, often, guilty of not being forthcoming in our praise and letting people know how we feel when we are happy about something, but very quick to leap into the fray when we are annoyed. The like button is brilliant, we need to spread more LIKE around, it will make us better people I am sure. If that makes me a sycophantic tool then so be it. I will be a happy little sycophantic tool …

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      November 30, 2013 at 1:58 pm

      You’re spot on about us sometimes being more willing to leap in to the fray than praise others! I wonder why us humans have these funny ways – maybe we think we’re right about something when we’re really trying to get over some sort of insecurity – weird bunch we are! For a while there I held back on the LIKE’s just in case someone crapped on me for not ever saying much, then I thought naaaah – I’m never going to be anything other than me, so I’ll carry on with the LIKING. 😀 I like getting likes just because I know that someone has read something I posted & I’d hate for someone not to because they don’t feel like saying anything. So I’m a full fledged member of the sycophantic tool club – maybe we should make a new award… Like – YOU HAVE JUST BEEN AWARDED THE SYCOPHANTIC TOOL AWARD FOR BEING A NICE PERSON AND GENERALLY MOST COOL! LOLOL! 😀

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        Menopausal Miss said:
        November 30, 2013 at 2:20 pm

        I whole-heartedly agree! I definitely think we need that award. The JOSTA Award! It’s perfect, and it has an elegant ring to it don’t you think? LOL

        See, amazing things come from rants – and nice people turn icky comments into fun opportunities.

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          jorobinson176 responded:
          November 30, 2013 at 2:53 pm

          COOL! The JOSTA award sounds brilliant, and it could end up the most sought after too. LOLOLOL!!!

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        Menopausal Miss said:
        November 30, 2013 at 2:21 pm

        PS: I’m off to come up with designs for your new award LOL 🙂

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          jorobinson176 responded:
          November 30, 2013 at 2:54 pm

          LOVE it! Can’t wait to see OUR award. Heeeee! 😀

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    MishaBurnett said:
    November 30, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    I work full time, and I write full time, which doesn’t give me much time to do anything else. I do try to respond to all comments on my blog, and I always answer fan mail personally and promptly, but I don’t have time to read a lot of blogs. I do check Facebook regularly, but that’s mostly to keep up with what my children are doing. Days go by without looking at Twitter.

    So it’s not that I think I am better than anyone else, there are just so many hours in a day, and I have to prioritize.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      November 30, 2013 at 1:50 pm

      I wasn’t having a dig at you at all Misha! The last thing I’d want is for someone like yourself to have hurt feelings because of anything I’ve said. I regularly lurk around your blog – I think you share great writing tips and information, and I’ve never seen you ignore anyone or talk down to them. I’ve got your books on my kindle too. I know how busy everything is – I’m the same, and I don’t mind if someone takes a week or two to reply to a direct question – I just seriously object to being totally ignored by a blogger that I’ve gone out of my way to promote on more than one occasion. You’re a great author and a lovely guy and have no place on my rant list. 😀

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        MishaBurnett said:
        November 30, 2013 at 2:17 pm

        I didn’t think you were having a dig at me, and honestly, I wasn’t fishing for compliments (but thank you anyway.) I suppose that I don’t really expect anything from people on-line, and so I am grateful when they do respond, and don’t take it personally when they don’t.

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          jorobinson176 responded:
          November 30, 2013 at 2:27 pm

          My pleasure. 🙂 I’m always grateful when people respond, and usually don’t take things personally. But some things I do take personally. I work just as hard as anyone else, and it’s taken a long time to build up the bit I have now, so I seriously take it personally when anyone imagines that just because I’m generally more than happy to help pretty much anyone out in any way, that I’m here to be used. I’ve never asked anyone to do a thing for me, but I often get the backlash caused by arrogant and overly forceful indie writers (again – not you!), so I’m going to be avoiding that kind of guy totally from now on.

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    John W. Howell said:
    November 30, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    I double dog guarantee a response every time you comment Jo. Really! This is my policy. This is the way I communicate with those interested enough to read my stuff. Unlike some, I will stay up late or get up early for the sole purpose of responding since I believe each comment is precious. I can say there are some who don’t feel comments are worth a response. I wish I had the arrogant feeling of self worth which would lead to the belief comments should be taken for granted. I would then never have a doubt about my greatness which would be a refreshing change. Keep on ranting.

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    jorobinson176 responded:
    November 30, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    That’s the thing John – it’s not just your great author status, but your warmth and interaction with us means that you’ll have us as fans forever – even when you’re forced to employ a young assistant to handle all your groupies. 😀 I’ve never been on the hating bandwagon that trashes indie writers for all their self promotion – we have to do it – but I’d have thought that by now everyone would have figured out that there’s ways and then there’s ways. x

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    sknicholls said:
    November 30, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    I had to laugh at your lists, not at you…mind you, but the lists. I could have written those. So many times I have questioned, “What in the heck am I doing this for…pouring out my heart and soul to the public?” Oh yeah, I love writing and sometimes people actually want to read it.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      November 30, 2013 at 3:54 pm

      We’re a funny bunch – I so often read your posts and think, oi, but that’s me! You’re right though – we’re doing it for the love of the writing and the guys who want to read it. 🙂

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    Diana Hurwitz said:
    November 30, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    I sometimes feel awkward liking and commenting on everything on my daily Facebook feed, because so often no one else comments or likes it. I don’t want to come across as a stalker. Few comment and like my own posts on Facebook or blogs. But I thought that was the point of being on social media: reading posts, leaving an indication that you read and appreciated them, and having conversations. Social media is like a fabulous water cooler where writers and book lovers hang out. The only people hanging out at my water dispenser are my two cats. They are lovely, but not amazing conversationalists. I figure if someone doesn’t appreciate my likes and shares and comments, they can unfriend me.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 1, 2013 at 12:59 pm

      I feel exactly the same on Facebook Diana! I often feel like I’ve crashed a party, and if I comment on something people will think “Such cheek!!” – then I worry that a post of mine will offend or irritate someone. I’m getting braver there now but I must say I’ve never felt that way on G+ or Twitter – I’ve only ever had good, fun experiences there. Your kitties are cool, and you know exactly what you’ll get from them – loves. My feathered horde often beat me up and swipe my choccies, but I know that I can like them as much as I like. 🙂 x

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    M T McGuire said:
    November 30, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    I really like the like button. Phnark. It shows I’ve come here and read the post. I may not always have something to say. As Mark Twain said, it’s better to be silent and thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    No point commenting for the sake of it.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 1, 2013 at 1:01 pm

      LOL! Probably too late for me to be silent now… drat! I’m glad you agree with the liking – I often read Blogger posts and can’t think of a thing to say, but I’ve really enjoyed the post, but there’s no like button there, and you can’t spam up your feeds by sharing every thing you like. Do you think you’d be willing to share that word – Phnark? – I like it a lot! 😀

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        M T McGuire said:
        December 1, 2013 at 10:24 pm

        You can stay ‘phnark’ as much as you like. I have sort do made it my own but it is pukka (if obscure) English here in the uk.

        Cheers

        MTM

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          jorobinson176 responded:
          December 3, 2013 at 1:07 pm

          Thanks for the phnark! I doubt that I could ever use it in funnier ways than you do, but it’s got to go in a story somewhere. 😀

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    gillswriting said:
    December 1, 2013 at 6:37 am

    I for one get a real buzz when I see Jo has liked your blog post, when you comment it is awesome but don’t ever stop the likes because they are so important to us and I can’t beat the Mark Twain quote above. says it all. keep liking and loving that is my new motto! xx

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 1, 2013 at 1:03 pm

      Your blog should have a LOVE button on it Gill. I’ve LOVED every single one – off to find this week’s story from Aruba! XXXX

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    ghostbusterbev said:
    December 1, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    Well said Jo! I am still sorting out the “etiquette” of blogging so I enjoyed reading your view on the subject. I try to find time each day to discover new and interesting blogs to support as well as “follow” my favorite blogs with comments and likes. It is time consuming but I believe that one gets back more than what one gives..

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 3, 2013 at 1:09 pm

      Thank you Bev! It is time consuming, but I still find it hugely rewarding. Everyone has something different to say, and sometimes the same too. I found lovely kindred spirits here – you for example. If you just blast out blogs and never have a look around you’re missing out on meeting lovely people I reckon.

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        ghostbusterbev said:
        December 3, 2013 at 2:59 pm

        Very true Jo – like you, I feel a need to connect when I come across enlightened bloggers like yourself. That’s what makes it all worthwhile.

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          jorobinson176 responded:
          December 6, 2013 at 7:59 am

          It’s funny where you find new friends Bev. I’ve actually just made the most awesome friend in the most peculiar way – a destiny sort of way, and these things really are joyful. 🙂

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    Jane Fritz said:
    December 1, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    Jo, I enjoyed both of these rants. Totally agree with where you’re coming from, including “liking” to show that you read a blog and enjoyed it. Why else? Duh! No need to reply! 🙂

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 3, 2013 at 1:06 pm

      LOL Jane! I’m really chuffed you agree – in fact the second I pushed the publish button I wanted to stop it because I was sure that I was going to get crapped on for being lazy or something like that. 😀

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    Donicia said:
    December 2, 2013 at 4:58 am

    We all rant now and then LOL! I love your blog! 😀

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 3, 2013 at 1:04 pm

      Ha haaaa! Thanks Donicia – you only have elegant rants, and they always hit the mark with me. You’re a LOVE. 😀 xx

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        Donicia said:
        December 3, 2013 at 11:44 pm

        That’s just because I’m still trying to control my devious rants LOL Your rants are hilariously awesome but so very real for me and everyone 🙂 You know you’re a dear xx

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          jorobinson176 responded:
          December 6, 2013 at 7:40 am

          LOL! Let out the devious rants – I love them! I think we are very similar you and I. 😉 xxx

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            Donicia said:
            December 9, 2013 at 12:54 am

            They’re slowly unfolding LOL 😀 I think so, too. Have a wonderful week Jo. xxx

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    alisonjackauthor said:
    December 2, 2013 at 7:21 am

    I did lots of nodding while reading your post, especially at the part about blog ‘likers’ who don’t comment. I often click ‘like’ on blogs I follow to indicate that I’ve enjoyed what I’ve read. Nothing sycophantic about taking a second to let a writer know you’ve enjoyed their post; and as a writer myself I know it means the world when someone likes your work. If I share on Twitter/Facebook it means I think the post is worth sharing, and if I comment it’s because I believe I have an opinion worth voicing. It really is that simple, and I get a little tired of those on t’interweb who keep trying to read ulterior motives into online interactions.
    Keep on ranting, please. I really enjoyed your post.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 3, 2013 at 1:03 pm

      Thanks Alison! You’ve really got something there with reading ulterior motives into things – I wonder what these people think we’re up to liking their things. Funny really – I suppose it’s a whole universe of people who could be anyone at all sitting behind their computers, and we’re probably a brave lot for doing what we do. 🙂 xx

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    portsong said:
    December 2, 2013 at 10:48 am

    I agree completely. I am positive I’m doing some of this writing/social media stuff wrong, but I’m doing it and I don’t care. Keep on doing it, a lot of the percentages of “success” don’t factor in that one piece of dumb luck. You never know…

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 3, 2013 at 1:01 pm

      I think you’re awesome actually. I totally agree with the dumb luck! Some guys work their bums off for years for nothing, and then someone gets noticed and they’re off. We should just carry on chugging along, just as you say – it’s a whole lot of fun too. 😀

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        portsong said:
        December 3, 2013 at 7:00 pm

        Likewise, Jo! We’ll keep plugging away and wait for the good guys to catch a break. ;).

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    Sherri said:
    December 2, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    Jo, I must be doing it all wrong too as I interact with my blogging buddies and it takes up so much time but I do value our community here so much and I don’t want to lose that. I’m really grateful that I met you here and really appreciate your support of this ‘newbie’ writer with big dreams! Love your posts 🙂

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 3, 2013 at 12:59 pm

      I’m also a newbie Sherri! LOL! I LOVE my blogging buddies – there’s nowhere else like this old place for meeting the most amazing friends. I think you’re doing it right, and I’m thinking I maybe am too. 🙂 xx

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        Sherri said:
        December 4, 2013 at 5:58 pm

        Yes Jo, I’m just the same as you!! You ARE doing it right and that is what is so wonderful about your honesty in your posts and the way you interact with us here. I love my blogging buddies too, and wouldn’t want it any other way 🙂 x

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          jorobinson176 responded:
          December 6, 2013 at 7:28 am

          It is the most wonderful thing this bloggerverse. I love my blogger buddies a LOT more than real people most of the time. We share almost everything about ourselves here, and I reckon we get to know each other better in a lot of ways that we would meeting up in physical form. Good old blogs tend to strip the inhibitions a bit more. 🙂 xxxx

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            Sherri said:
            December 6, 2013 at 4:04 pm

            I do really agree with you Jo, in fact I intend to do a blog post about this soon as I have had a very interesting discussion with my Aspie daughter about this very subject! Thanks so much Jo, you are the best 🙂
            Have lovely weekend 🙂 xxx

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              jorobinson176 responded:
              December 7, 2013 at 10:38 am

              I’m looking forward to your post Sherri, and I just know your little love will have some very definite opinions too. 😀 You have a fantastic weekend, and don’t skimp on the bubbles. 😀 xxx

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                Sherri said:
                December 9, 2013 at 2:14 pm

                Ha Ha! Thanks Jo – here we are Monday and we did have a few bubbles but not so much that I’m not ok today, although I’m still not much further ahead with Christmas, darn it!!!

                Hope you had a lovely weekend 🙂 xxx

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                  jorobinson176 responded:
                  December 10, 2013 at 1:12 pm

                  LOL! And faking an injury to get the hard labour done by others doesn’t work either – tried it. 😀 All it takes is lovely people, and you’ve got that down. Happy week to you my friend. 🙂 xxx

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                    Sherri said:
                    December 10, 2013 at 10:41 pm

                    Ahh, thanks Jo,and a happy week to you to lovely friend 🙂 xo

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    doverwhitecliff said:
    December 3, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    Thank you very much for doing what you do. You as a writer you as a blogger and you as a cool human being are much appreciated. Excellent post. I’m still not sure about all this follow stuff myself and am sure I’m breaking some rule I don’t know about every time I click a button. I write and read because I love to and i’m glad you do too. Thanks for being awesome and speaking your mind. Cheers and happy holidays!

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 6, 2013 at 8:04 am

      What lovely things to say! You’re doing perfectly as far as I’m concerned – I think us softies are all doing it right. Stay as lovely as you are and happy holidays to you. 🙂 xxxx

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        doverwhitecliff said:
        December 7, 2013 at 12:28 am

        Hope your holidays bring you lots of joy…make some awesome memories, and thank you very much for your kind words!

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    glenperk said:
    December 3, 2013 at 11:03 pm

    I follow you because of the–ahem!–great view. 😉

    Glen

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 6, 2013 at 7:54 am

      LOLOL! We’re just the same then. 😀

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        glenperk said:
        December 6, 2013 at 10:10 am

        Very good because if you’re walking in front of me, my eyes are fixed. 😉

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    Phil A Davis said:
    December 8, 2013 at 7:56 am

    My mother always demanded that I shouldn’t speak unless I have something nice to say. When I was younger I didn’t realize how fragile so many were, how sensitive their ego’s were held in balance.
    It made sense, back then, I mean. Don’t bruise and don’t be bruised.
    In my life today criticism is a daily, hourly, minute-to-minute serendipity. Without it I’d never have grown. I maybe would have never explored.
    I vote for rant, Jo. As a writer you need to speak your heart – you have to bleed the truth.
    A great posting.

    With Much Aloha

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 10, 2013 at 1:20 pm

      Aloha Phil! Those are wise words indeed. ‘As a writer you need to speak your heart…’. Thank you my friend. 🙂 x

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        Phil A Davis said:
        December 10, 2013 at 5:14 pm

        Been slammed with the day job in recent months but I wanted to wish you the best of the season. Much aloha, Jo.

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          jorobinson176 responded:
          December 11, 2013 at 12:15 pm

          And lots of love and best wishes to you lovely guys too Phil! 🙂 XXXXX

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    Lindsay Edmunds said:
    December 10, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    Authenticity is the best thing that a blogger/author has to offer. The next thing is reciprocity — treating other people with interest and respect. And do what you say you are going to do. When I became self-employed as a medical editor, clients were ASTOUNDED when I did something as simple as deliver the work on the day I said I would.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 11, 2013 at 12:19 pm

      Thank you Lindsay. Ha haaa! ‘ASTOUNDED’ when you delivered the work on the day you said you would. It’s true though – if 90% of people are just rushing through expecting the world to just love them for no reason, people lower their expectations and maybe stop reciprocating too.

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    Seumas Gallacher said:
    December 11, 2013 at 6:36 am

    …superbly put, m’Lady … you’ve got it all RIGHT ! LUV YA! gonna reblog this piece..!

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 11, 2013 at 12:11 pm

      Thank you gorgeous Seamas – for the record – your blog is one entitled to my slavish following without ever expecting you to notice me, and it really is most cool that you actually do take the time to look at mine. Even so, I would not ever like to miss a single one of your inspiring, funny, lovely wurds. XXXXXXXXXXXXXX (The most kisses ever awarded here)

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    Seumas Gallacher said:
    December 11, 2013 at 6:37 am

    Reblogged this on Seumas Gallacher and commented:
    …dear friend, Author, Jo robinson, absolutely nails this in respect of follows, following back, comments etc… have a read… great stuff !

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    olganm said:
    December 11, 2013 at 7:22 am

    Amen to blogging because you love it, to reciprocity, and to your comments about self (and standard) publishing. I guess we write because we love it and I’ve always been clear that I would carry on writing even if I never sold a book, although I might stop publishing for a while, or rather, marketing.
    Good luck all.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 11, 2013 at 12:07 pm

      Hiya Olga! I agree that we write because we love it, although it would be kind of sad if we put it all out there and our books were never eyeballed by a soul. Blog-wise, I absolutely won’t ever stop, even if I end up talking to myself – it’s the nicest kind of diary to have. 🙂

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    drewdog2060drewdog2060 said:
    December 11, 2013 at 7:31 am

    I agree with you. I often leave likes on those posts which I genuinely liked, however I only ever comment when I feel that I have something that I can usefully say.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 11, 2013 at 12:03 pm

      I’m the same way – some things I agree with, or think are beautiful, but have nothing to say. We should appreciate the fact that people are reading and sometimes liking without expecting comments all the time. 🙂

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        drewdog2060drewdog2060 said:
        December 12, 2013 at 6:31 am

        I agree. Also if people feel obliged to leave a comment each time they like a post the result will be less likes as there are simply not enough hours in the day to comment on every post one likes.

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          jorobinson176 responded:
          December 12, 2013 at 2:58 pm

          Absolutely! You’d never get anything else done anywhere. 😀

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    Peter Germany said:
    December 11, 2013 at 7:38 am

    Very well said 🙂

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    laurie27wsmith said:
    December 11, 2013 at 8:02 am

    Great post, I have about 140 followers and maybe 10% ( could be stretching it ) comment on my posts. I visit every blog at least once a week, read what I can, like or comment when necessary. Many of these followers only reciprocate if I like theirs. The hard part is that most of them post up to three or four times a day. You can’t possibly keep up with that. Then there are those who always respond and I have built up some great web friendships. These are the people who make the exercise worthwhile. I have recently learned to leave well enough alone on some sites and only click like. I believe many people follow you to get their numbers up. It is nice to see that people are reading your work and taking the time to comment. Likes are good, as you say they know that someone has been by and taken a peek at your blog. Once again Jo, great post.
    Laurie.

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 11, 2013 at 11:57 am

      Thanks Laurie! I agree that lots of bloggers follow to get their numbers up – it’s the same on Google and Twitter – they generally unfollow you a while later too, and you are none the wiser. I regularly like posts from guys who don’t follow me at all, but I won’t just like something because someone liked mine – like if the translate button doesn’t work on a foreign blog you could end up liking all sorts of oddness. But I always try and make the time to check out what people who have liked anything of mine are up to, and mostly do find that I really do like them right back. I think it’s lovely to know that someone at least read what you have to say, and pushing the like button takes a second and costs nothing. It’s amazing the friends and connections you make this way – that’s why I just don’t get the guys who just send out endless reams about themselves all over the place and never look at who’s taken an interest in them – and often don’t even bother to reply to comments. Just seems rude to me. I reckon that people who only ever read or like any of your posts if you read all four of their daily ones are way too high maintenance to follow – that would suck you dry. It’s great to meet a like-minded blogger. 🙂

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        laurie27wsmith said:
        December 11, 2013 at 8:33 pm

        Hi Jo, great to hear from you. I know what you mean about foreign blogs, thank you Google translate. Although things like poetry lose a lot in the translation. Yes it’s not like you are going to get zapped if you hit the like button. Although I’ve found some sites take an extraordinary amount of time to load the like button. If anyone drops a like on my home page I visit them, I’ve met some nice folk doing that. It’s all about good manners and a little respect Jo. Something you don’t always see on the web but when you come across nice folk, then it’s worthwhile. Nice to hear from you.
        Cheers
        Laurie.

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          jorobinson176 responded:
          December 12, 2013 at 3:01 pm

          And you too Laurie! 😀 I do love the nice folk – and I’m always amazed when I occasionally see the opposite of them – nice to meet a new nice one like yourself. 🙂

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            laurie27wsmith said:
            December 12, 2013 at 8:32 pm

            Thanks Jo, *blushes madly* the feeling is mutual. 🙂

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    davidprosser said:
    December 11, 2013 at 9:06 am

    Yay for someone who speaks common sense. I routinely ‘Like’ blogs I read and enjoy without adding comments.People are kind enough to do the same for me, but if everyone commented and I then responded to every comment ( as I like to do) then I might as well rent out my bed because I’ll never use it again. I’m very happy if someone just shows their appreciation of my efforts with a like unless they need to make a comment like’ Your writing Stinks’ or better still ‘Your writing is brilliant’. I like to blog and it”s the visitors that keep me going as long as I think it worthwhile. I don’t necessarily expect followers, nice as they are, but dropping in for a cuppa is nice.
    I enjoyed your rant Jo, keep it up.
    xxx Huge Hugs xxx

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 11, 2013 at 11:44 am

      Ha haaa! Imagine someone saying ‘Your writing Stinks’! Haaaa – that would be a laugh. I’ve read your blog so I can say ‘Your writing is brilliant’ instead. It’s lovely to have the blogger friends I do, and you are sooo right about having to sell your bed if everyone commented too. I’m totally addicted to the bloggerverse – it’s such a unique way to get to know people incredibly well. I think we bloggers happily post information about ourselves that we wouldn’t generally say in one on one conversation. It baffles me that people would scare off anyone liking something they’ve shared because they don’t have a comment about it. Huge hugs right back at you lovely man! 😀 XXX

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    ajsefton.com said:
    December 11, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    Oh, how I hear you! I have been a full-time writer for about two years and have have been constantly confused with the advice about my online presence. About a year ago I joined everything (make people know you!) but found that it would take about four hours a day to respond to all posts in all sites. Now I am in the process of cutting back. I will ‘like’ a post that I…like. Commenting with ‘great post’ is fine but really tells the author little.

    I have decided that, like you, supporting new or emerging authors has to be a two-way thing. A lot of these writers have nothing else in common with me (I would not normally bother with romance books, for example) other than being writers. I have also decided to cap my following at 2,000. Even then, I cannot keep up with everyone.

    I have deleted my Blogger and WordPress accounts (amongst others) as I have my own site where the etiquette rules are not so strict. I always respond to positive comments there (as I can see them!).

    Above all, you and I are probably a bit too thin-skinned for this stuff. We need to do what we feel is right and not allow ourselves to be bullied by the cyberpolicethugs. As decent human beings we know what is polite.

    Good luck and thanks for posting xx

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 12, 2013 at 3:13 pm

      Hi Janet – cool to meet you! I must say first that I’m hugely impressed by your website – that’s the sort of thing I’d love to get up one day. Brilliant! I also did the joining of every single site. 😀 I often got crapped on though because I’m really incredibly lacking in logical thought with how to navigate them – I actually think I’m banned from Reddit, and I managed that without posting a word. I’ve stopped trying to post everywhere every day though – there’s no way I can write and then do all the rest in one day. I stopped following on Twitter at about 800 except for very rarely but I generally follow everyone back unless it’s an obvious bot or one of those follow to unfollow guys. I love what you say … do what we feel is right and not allow ourselves to be bullied by the cyberpolicethugs…. Very true! And I love that word too – cyberpolicethugs – ha haaaa! All the good luck to you, and I’m looking forward to liking all your words. xxxx

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    Kev said:
    December 12, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    Wow, I just read this through. That’s quite a rant. lol. For me, you can rant and rave all you like Jo. I like your stuff. Although I do agree with you, I’ll admit, I don’t even agree or like all the blogs that follow me. The way I look at it is, they obviously like something I’m doing and since they are taking the time to even look at one of my posts, it’s just mutual respect to check out theirs. Like you, I also have liked and followed many bloggers that don’t even acknowledge. I still return and like them again because I really like their stuff. So I see where you are coming from. However I’ve just started to go through all of my followers through the EDIT button on the read page and I have found some that don’t even blog anymore. I’m deleting these and at the same time getting a chance to see who has slipped through the cracks when I’ve been checking out stories. I don’t know why, it’s just me being me I guess. lol

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      jorobinson176 responded:
      December 12, 2013 at 3:21 pm

      I don’t often rant – promise. 😀 Some bloggers are impossible not to love Kev – I have firm favourites, and I hate to miss any of their posts. They probably to think I’m some sort of weird stalker liking everything they say or do, but there aren’t many of them, so I reckon I won’t get arrested. You’re a nice guy, and that generally means more work, but it can’t be helped. I actually get very anxious if I think that someone thinks I’m being high handed or couldn’t ever be bothered to look at their posts. Don’t see the point in following anyone if you’re never going to look at their posts. That edit button was a brilliant find for me too – I found loads of blogs I’ve been following for ages but they didn’t show up in my email – now I get to open a couple from everyone at least a few times a week. Love your posts, and your music man stuff too. 😀

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        Kev said:
        December 14, 2013 at 3:30 pm

        I find that very few of us are on the same page. Glad that we seem to be. I’m actually very surprised by the few that actually seem to like all my posts! (Not boasting, just don’t want you to think that I think you’re stalking me! Lmao.) I really appreciate all of them and have found that we have very similar interests.

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          jorobinson176 responded:
          December 15, 2013 at 11:31 am

          LOL! You’re right about finding so many people with similar interests – and just generally nice too. We’re actually very lucky. Some blogs have me smiling before I even open them, because I know I’m going to anyway when I do. 🙂

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    billyraychitwood1 said:
    December 12, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    You say it for me! Enjoyed the ‘rant’ – I’m usually one that just ‘likes’ and do not comment that often. I’m with you: you can like a post without commenting… Then, there are times when the urge is there to comment! Nice post.

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